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	<title>Comments on: Dear Mr. Carlson and Mr. Howse&#8230;</title>
	<link>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/</link>
	<description>Dreamer, friend, lover, artist and... very undisciplined. oh well... nobody's perfect</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wailer</title>
		<link>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>wailer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 19:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very late to this discussion, but it's awesome to read the thoughts and spirit with which you interact.  I know what it's like to be misunderstood and then wrongfully criticized by a brother in Christ, and it's nothing short of frustrating.  

You and Alex are apparently great encouragements to everyone who knows you, and thanks so much for your heart and openness on the Vox!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very late to this discussion, but it&#8217;s awesome to read the thoughts and spirit with which you interact.  I know what it&#8217;s like to be misunderstood and then wrongfully criticized by a brother in Christ, and it&#8217;s nothing short of frustrating.  </p>
<p>You and Alex are apparently great encouragements to everyone who knows you, and thanks so much for your heart and openness on the Vox!</p>
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		<title>By: niza</title>
		<link>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>niza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 02:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-210</guid>
		<description>btw, in case you didn't follow the link, this is what bill is refering to:

Acts 17:22-31 (New American Standard Bible)

New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Copyright Ã‚Â© 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation

    
Sermon on Mars Hill

 22So Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, "Men of (A)Athens, I observe that you are very (B)religious in all respects.
 23"For while I was passing through and examining the (C)objects of your worship, I also found an altar with this inscription, 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD ' Therefore what (D)you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you.

 24"(E)The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is (F)Lord of heaven and earth, does not (G)dwell in temples made with hands;

 25nor is He served by human hands, (H)as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things;

 26and (I)He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having (J)determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,

 27that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, (K)though He is not far from each one of us;

 28for (L)in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, 'For we also are His children.'

 29"Being then the children of God, we (M)ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man.

 30"Therefore having (N)overlooked (O)the times of ignorance, God is (P)now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent,

 31because He has fixed (Q)a day in which (R)He will judge (S)the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has (T)appointed, having furnished proof to all men by (U)raising Him from the dead."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, in case you didn&#8217;t follow the link, this is what bill is refering to:</p>
<p>Acts 17:22-31 (New American Standard Bible)</p>
<p>New American Standard Bible (NASB)<br />
Copyright Ã‚Â© 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation</p>
<p>Sermon on Mars Hill</p>
<p> 22So Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, &#8220;Men of (A)Athens, I observe that you are very (B)religious in all respects.<br />
 23&#8243;For while I was passing through and examining the (C)objects of your worship, I also found an altar with this inscription, &#8216;TO AN UNKNOWN GOD &#8216; Therefore what (D)you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you.</p>
<p> 24&#8243;(E)The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is (F)Lord of heaven and earth, does not (G)dwell in temples made with hands;</p>
<p> 25nor is He served by human hands, (H)as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things;</p>
<p> 26and (I)He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having (J)determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,</p>
<p> 27that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, (K)though He is not far from each one of us;</p>
<p> 28for (L)in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, &#8216;For we also are His children.&#8217;</p>
<p> 29&#8243;Being then the children of God, we (M)ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man.</p>
<p> 30&#8243;Therefore having (N)overlooked (O)the times of ignorance, God is (P)now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent,</p>
<p> 31because He has fixed (Q)a day in which (R)He will judge (S)the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has (T)appointed, having furnished proof to all men by (U)raising Him from the dead.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: niza</title>
		<link>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>niza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 02:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-209</guid>
		<description>bill - haha... good one =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bill - haha&#8230; good one =)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill W</title>
		<link>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 01:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-208</guid>
		<description>My apologies; I guess cut-and-pasting my reply wasn't the best choice, huh?

P.S. Try http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2017:22-31;&#38;version=49</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies; I guess cut-and-pasting my reply wasn&#8217;t the best choice, huh?</p>
<p>P.S. Try <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2017:22-31;&amp;version=49" rel="nofollow">http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2017:22-31;&amp;version=49</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill W</title>
		<link>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 01:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-207</guid>
		<description>I realize I'm coming into this conversation a little late, but I was 
compelled to after reading an article that demonstrates just how 
far some Christians have fallen away from the true gospel.

I couldn't believe what I was reading, that a respected (and 
unnamed) Christian leader would seemingly minimize the 
difference between Christianity and other religions. In fact he 
seems to compliment them simply for being religious, instead of 
pointing out the falsity of their beliefs.

He doesn't seem to differentiate between the One TRUE God 
and the "gods" of other religions. He blurs the distinction 
apparently in an attempt to be cool or postmodern, or perhaps to 
appear to be culturally relevant instead of trying to make a real 
impact on a spiritually darkened people.

Never once does he quote a passage of scripture, but instead 
refers to a secular poet and even tries to build an argument for 
Christianity on it in an attempt to be cutting edge.

And reminiscent of the New Age Movement, he refers to the 
Eternal God as the "Divine Nature", and states that he is very 
near to each one of us, believer and nonbeliever.

This is just another example of how far off some believers, even 
church leaders can be in their teachings. The article can be read 
here:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2017:22
-31;&#38;version=49</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize I&#8217;m coming into this conversation a little late, but I was<br />
compelled to after reading an article that demonstrates just how<br />
far some Christians have fallen away from the true gospel.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t believe what I was reading, that a respected (and<br />
unnamed) Christian leader would seemingly minimize the<br />
difference between Christianity and other religions. In fact he<br />
seems to compliment them simply for being religious, instead of<br />
pointing out the falsity of their beliefs.</p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t seem to differentiate between the One TRUE God<br />
and the &#8220;gods&#8221; of other religions. He blurs the distinction<br />
apparently in an attempt to be cool or postmodern, or perhaps to<br />
appear to be culturally relevant instead of trying to make a real<br />
impact on a spiritually darkened people.</p>
<p>Never once does he quote a passage of scripture, but instead<br />
refers to a secular poet and even tries to build an argument for<br />
Christianity on it in an attempt to be cutting edge.</p>
<p>And reminiscent of the New Age Movement, he refers to the<br />
Eternal God as the &#8220;Divine Nature&#8221;, and states that he is very<br />
near to each one of us, believer and nonbeliever.</p>
<p>This is just another example of how far off some believers, even<br />
church leaders can be in their teachings. The article can be read<br />
here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2017:22" rel="nofollow">http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2017:22</a><br />
-31;&amp;version=49</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 05:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-165</guid>
		<description>I'm glad to read and catch up with you!  I think it'x crazy HOW LONG it's been!!  Thanks for your updates and all of your support!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to read and catch up with you!  I think it&#8217;x crazy HOW LONG it&#8217;s been!!  Thanks for your updates and all of your support!!</p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
		<link>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-164</guid>
		<description>Niza,
Thanks for all that you and Alex do for young people all over the world. Sorry to hear of the recent slander. I'm sure it's not the first, and probably not the last I suppose. When you rock the boat, people get scared. Continue to forge into the future and speak a language that's needed to reach the new western world. Oh yeah...thanks for the welcome on my new vox blog. I'm really looking forward to joining this community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niza,<br />
Thanks for all that you and Alex do for young people all over the world. Sorry to hear of the recent slander. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s not the first, and probably not the last I suppose. When you rock the boat, people get scared. Continue to forge into the future and speak a language that&#8217;s needed to reach the new western world. Oh yeah&#8230;thanks for the welcome on my new vox blog. I&#8217;m really looking forward to joining this community.</p>
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		<title>By: deana</title>
		<link>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>deana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 03:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-161</guid>
		<description>Niza...............where aaaaaaaare you?  Hope you're doing well lady...just checking on you.

love love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niza&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;where aaaaaaaare you?  Hope you&#8217;re doing well lady&#8230;just checking on you.</p>
<p>love love.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-156</guid>
		<description>I have no problem with anything Alex or Dean or anyone of you guys are doing.

I continue daily on my journey into the mystic.

I would love to be a part of your community, and I have had several conversations with Dean about the Mystic Nation.

THAT SAID, I agree that Alex's language was intentionally confusing.  It was shrouded in mystery.  I thought that was kind of the point.  It's not like he won't clear it up for those who are willing to seek the answer.  Okay, so Dean is good at question evasion ... but curiosity ressurects the cat, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with anything Alex or Dean or anyone of you guys are doing.</p>
<p>I continue daily on my journey into the mystic.</p>
<p>I would love to be a part of your community, and I have had several conversations with Dean about the Mystic Nation.</p>
<p>THAT SAID, I agree that Alex&#8217;s language was intentionally confusing.  It was shrouded in mystery.  I thought that was kind of the point.  It&#8217;s not like he won&#8217;t clear it up for those who are willing to seek the answer.  Okay, so Dean is good at question evasion &#8230; but curiosity ressurects the cat, no?</p>
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		<title>By: James Petticrew</title>
		<link>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>James Petticrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://niza.voxtropolis.com/2006/03/07/dear-mr-carlson-and-mr-howse/#comment-155</guid>
		<description>Yes, they are parasitic, they live off other ministries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they are parasitic, they live off other ministries.</p>
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